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Title: Looking for a new investment, how about a bridge??
Post by: YJ_Aaron on 09/18/07 - 08:01PM
Being in the finance field this one really caught me off guard.  It makes sense when you think about it.  However I never saw it coming.  The question have you thought about buying a toll road for retirement just never came up.

http://money.cnn.com/2007/09/17/news/international/macquarie_infrastructure_funds.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2007091810
Title: Re: Looking for a new investment, how about a bridge??
Post by: TJ-2thousand on 09/18/07 - 08:25PM
did it ever say how long it will take to see a return on that? or did i miss it?
Title: Re: Looking for a new investment, how about a bridge??
Post by: YJ_Aaron on 09/18/07 - 10:11PM
Rough guess would be at least 60yrs.  All would depend on your time value of money calculations and what you expect growth to be.  I however never saw it stated.
Title: Re: Looking for a new investment, how about a bridge??
Post by: TJ-2thousand on 09/18/07 - 10:29PM
i was just wondering how many tolls it would take to turn a profit. how much traffic the bridge sees.

toyota guy: do you work for a local firm/group?
my bro inlaw and his partner just opened up there own investment/ finacial co. and he is wanting me to take the courses to join him.
Title: Re: Looking for a new investment, how about a bridge??
Post by: YJ_Aaron on 09/18/07 - 10:32PM
No I'm trying to finish up my degree in Finance @ MSU.  

With a 99 year lease, giving that most would consider that a low risk investment i'm going to assume they are looking at 15% annual return, but can't really run the numbers without a whole lot more info.
Title: Re: Looking for a new investment, how about a bridge??
Post by: TJ-2thousand on 09/18/07 - 11:39PM
yeah i was hoping to see numbers like number of cars daily and what toll for cars, trucks, and semi truck is.
Title: Re: Looking for a new investment, how about a bridge??
Post by: YJ_Aaron on 09/18/07 - 11:40PM
What is the name of your Bro-in law's firm?
Title: Re: Looking for a new investment, how about a bridge??
Post by: LoneWolf on 09/19/07 - 12:24AM
so whose money do  the grieving families take when your toll bridge collapses and kills everyone on it... because you can't afford to do million dollar maintenance every year on it. Or does someone magically do that for you because this is a dream investment opportunity...



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Title: Re: Looking for a new investment, how about a bridge??
Post by: YJ_Aaron on 09/19/07 - 12:26AM
Well that is one reason municpailities are starting to do this.  It creates needed revenue for rebuilding.
Title: Re: Looking for a new investment, how about a bridge??
Post by: TJ-2thousand on 09/19/07 - 12:38AM
Denny-Shearrer interpises, they do investment stuff along with some real estate and development things.

right now im kinda just their grunt to do work on their "flip houses" we are working on a 12,000 sq ft house in Highland Springs right now, and hope to get a few more started this year. i want to go back to school, and be a bigger part of this company either as a job forman, or part of the investment part. although im not sure how well that will work since i am a really BIG fan of spending money, and not saving it. im also thinking about some computer stuff too, but not real sure yet.
Title: Re: Looking for a new investment, how about a bridge??
Post by: CRAZY LARRY on 10/17/07 - 01:16AM
 
there is a town in nebraska called plattsmouth. they charge $1.25 to cross there bridge. it is an old one lane bridge.
there are no motels in town.but there is a big liquor store.
Title: Re: Looking for a new investment, how about a bridge??
Post by: upnover on 10/21/07 - 05:56PM
Flipping houses is becoming less popular now with the interest rates as high as they are and the decreased number of individuals who qualify for loans due to the change in qualifications of first-time homeowners. I've know many investors who are now stuck with homes and ready for foreclosures. Not a pretty financial statement.
Title: Re: Looking for a new investment, how about a bridge??
Post by: YJ_Aaron on 10/21/07 - 06:31PM
Ya the fall out of the sub-prime lending market has really had a backlash into the home sales.  It now greatly reduces the number of potential buyers for homes. 

Jim, what does this have to do with us buying a bridge????
Title: Re: Looking for a new investment, how about a bridge??
Post by: upnover on 10/21/07 - 06:25PM
Aaron, It has nothing to do with buying a bridge - I don't think anyone on this board is going to buy a bridge. My statement was in regard to someone posting that his brother's firm is flipping a house at Highland Springs. I'm not a loone just posting stuff - I don't think   :106:
Title: Re: Looking for a new investment, how about a bridge??
Post by: TJ-2thousand on 10/21/07 - 08:17PM
they are avoiding all the sub-prime and first time home buyers all together. they are only buying $750,000 and up, (people who buy houses like that usually are not affected by intrest rates as much as us common folk)  and they only buying at a set percentage below value. its amazing how many million dollar homes are in forclosure in springfield!

and also there are too many people doing flips on smaller houses now that the people on TV make it look so easy. (its not) so there are alot of forclosures that are half flipped houses that people got way over thier heads on.
Title: Re: Looking for a new investment, how about a bridge??
Post by: upnover on 10/22/07 - 10:00AM
You're right, it's not the first-time homeowners who are buying homes in excess of 500 grand. It's amazing what is hidden in homes and only found when attempting a facial lift. It ends up being over their budget to make any kind of a profit on the flip.