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Title: Ford Diesel this and that
Post by: LoneWolf on 02/ 2/09 - 01:00AM
Is there a difference between a 8-Cylinder 7.3 Powerstroke Diesel and an 8-Cylinder Turbo Diesel? I've been looking at ads and some are just worded different than others... wondering for 2000-2002 Fords is there more than one option for a diesel motor? Or is a Turbo Diesel actually the same as a Powerstroke Diesel?  thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Ford Diesel this and that
Post by: CRAZY LARRY on 02/ 2/09 - 01:11AM
same thing
Title: Re: Ford Diesel this and that
Post by: YJ_Aaron on 02/ 2/09 - 01:17AM
95 up will be a POWERSTROKE diesel, there were 7.3 "turbo diesels" and non-turbo diesels before that.  However in those years they are all strokes. 
Title: Re: Ford Diesel this and that
Post by: LoneWolf on 02/ 2/09 - 01:49AM
alright, that clears things up for me some.. thanks guys.

Been doing alot of research and the conclusion I've come to so far is this:
The V10; great power, horrible mileage; possible spark plug blowage;
The 5.4; reliable, long lasting motor, comparable to my 351 that I have now, but not really enough power to sport in a Super Duty.. though I am tempted to go with this motor.
The 7.3 Turbo Diesel; - reliable, lots of power, long lasting, better mileage; higher maintenance costs, did I say power?

Title: Re: Ford Diesel this and that
Post by: YJ_Aaron on 02/ 2/09 - 01:51AM
5.4 doesn't have the low end your windsor does.  Go drive a superduty if u can find one with a 5.4.  They are the 4 cylinder TJ of the towing world. 

V10 or 7.3, 7.3 costs more, but most find is well worth it.  Add a 75HP chip to it and never look back.  I would recommend a manual!
Title: Re: Ford Diesel this and that
Post by: LoneWolf on 02/ 2/09 - 02:03AM
I prefer a manual that what I'm shooting for, but if run across a good deal and it's an auto.. I'll probably go for it.
Title: Re: Ford Diesel this and that
Post by: YJ_Aaron on 02/ 2/09 - 02:21AM
If you get an auto make sure you install a trans temp gauge, even if you don't do boost and pyro.  A good replacement diesel trans is more than a lot of people paid for their trucks.
Title: Re: Ford Diesel this and that
Post by: LoneWolf on 02/ 2/09 - 12:20PM
will do, thanks Aaron, another benefit is that Diesels are so loud (clacky) and smell so bad, that if you pass gas no one will know you did it.
Title: Re: Ford Diesel this and that
Post by: Mo Printer on 02/ 2/09 - 04:25PM
Jimmy, my 'WT' (white truck, white trash, whatever camper) has Ford's 5.4 in it.  It's an '02 16' box van, with most of my retrofit already in the back.  No, it's not a powerful as a locomotive, but I pulled my 'new' trailer with my unlimited on it to Disney with no problems.  Hauling all of that plus at least one utility ATV to Moab will be the real test.  Everyone I've talked to about this engine agrees: It'll run forever, but could use more power.  I'll take the trade-off.
Title: Re: Ford Diesel this and that
Post by: TJ-2thousand on 02/ 2/09 - 09:32PM
my dad had an 08 f-350 with the 5.4 for a short time. we pulled my jeep across town on Ricks trailer and it was a dog. the milage dropped below 10 on the highway. he has also owned the v-10 and it had zero issues with pulling his boat to the lake for years. he put 180'xxx miles on that truck and never had a single motor issue. he now has a Duramax with the Allison auto. and he says we wont have anything other than that from now on.
Title: Re: Ford Diesel this and that
Post by: LoneWolf on 02/ 2/09 - 09:34PM
It'll run forever, but could use more power.  I'll take the trade-off.

I just got done driving a 7.3 Turbo Diesel, first time I ever drove one... my eyes hvae been opened. The trade off AIN'T worth it!! GO Diesel!!
Title: Re: Ford Diesel this and that
Post by: OldYJ on 02/ 3/09 - 01:08AM
I just got done driving a 7.3 Turbo Diesel, first time I ever drove one... my eyes hvae been opened. The trade off AIN'T worth it!! GO Diesel!!

lol might just have to be my new sig 
now go drive a cummins  :deadhorse:
Title: Re: Ford Diesel this and that
Post by: YJ_Aaron on 02/ 3/09 - 01:36AM
Been telling him the same thing Roger.  I've owned both and driven a bunch of each and my next diesel will be a 6cyl cummins.
Title: Re: Ford Diesel this and that
Post by: xj42 on 02/ 3/09 - 10:54AM
Been telling him the same thing Roger.  I've owned both and driven a bunch of each and my next diesel will be a 6cyl cummins.
As opposed to the optional 8cyl? :78:

We had one of the 12V Cummins in a '96 and it did alright, I remember thinking it pulled great compared to anything else we had.  Then we got one of the 24V when they came out.  Talk about a difference, that thing was a hot rod compared to the 12V.  It was hard to keep it on the road, of course when we first got it, it was a C&C and we lived on dirt roads, so that contributed to it wanting to get out from under you.  I haven't driven one since then, but I'm sure they're better yet.
Title: Re: Ford Diesel this and that
Post by: OJTV8CJ on 02/ 3/09 - 01:41PM
As opposed to the optional 8cyl? :78:

We had one of the 12V Cummins in a '96 and it did alright, I remember thinking it pulled great compared to anything else we had.  Then we got one of the 24V when they came out.  Talk about a difference, that thing was a hot rod compared to the 12V.  It was hard to keep it on the road, of course when we first got it, it was a C&C and we lived on dirt roads, so that contributed to it wanting to get out from under you.  I haven't driven one since then, but I'm sure they're better yet.

Yes, they are.  Ask Aaron about the difference stock.  I don't have a programmer on my truck and I have to row gears, but the truck run's great.  Pulls like there is no tommorrow!  I can't wait to get it out from under the engine warranty so that I actually make some power.  I can hang with Tom and Larry (they have 24v 2nd's with programmer's) but they have the better gearing so they get sweeter mileage.

Still gets high teens towing at 70, just not on winter fuel.

When I get old I night look at the Duramax with the Allison, but rowing gears doesn't bother me right now.  :P
Title: Re: Ford Diesel this and that
Post by: LoneWolf on 02/ 3/09 - 07:32PM
Well I did it... bye-bye gassers!  8) I prefer Ford over Dodge, but that's just me, The 7.3 powerstroke has made me one happy camper. Thanks for all the input. Here's my new tow rig, lots of goodies:

2003 F250 Super Duty - 7.3 Powerstroke Turbo Diesel

Off-Road Pkg, Lariat, Air Conditioning, Power Steering, Power Windows, Power Door Locks, Tilt Wheel, Cruise Control, AM/FM Stereo, 6 Disc in Dash Compact Disc, Dual Front Air Bags, ABS (4-Wheel), Leather, Dual Power Seats, Running Boards, Towing Pkg, Alloy Wheels, Security System, Keyless Entry, Overhead Console Computer, 5th Wheel Turnover, 4-Wheel Disc Brakes, 3.73 Gear Ratio, Anti Spin Rear, Telescopic Trailer Mirrors, Rebuilt Transmission with 12 Month/12,000 Mile Warranty through ACE Transmission.

(http://www.blacksmokin.com/files/images/ford-power-stroke-logo.thumbnail.gif)



Title: Re: Ford Diesel this and that
Post by: Mo Printer on 02/ 3/09 - 07:57PM
Nice, very nice!
Title: Re: Ford Diesel this and that
Post by: gdowling on 07/ 7/09 - 08:39PM
My family has only owned fords 5.4, 7.3, V10, and my older brother just bought the 6.4 and it is without a doubt the most powerful wagon that I have ever pulled with. Looks like you bought a nice truck!